DAB Player - Software für USB Sticks mit RTL Chipset

[DanDAB]

Is the ensemble using a re-configuration of the content (adding subchannels, 2nd service or so)? Which ensemble are you listening to?

Here's my usual radio channel details -
Ensemble: BBC National DAB
Channel: 12B
Frequency: 225.648 MHz
Ensemble-ID: 0xCE15
DAB-Mode: I
ECC: 0xE1

My SNR is consistently between 9.5 - 11.dB.

I looked through the DAB-Info > MSC graph, which I don't understand but have marked the time in the graph that is around the time of this problem -
https://postimg.cc/V5j0Sx9G

There is another channel that this (http://www.wohnort.org/DAB/uknat.html) describes as a 'second service', which is 'BBC R5LiveSportX'.

And, if it's useful, this is the 'multiplex configuration' info -

Ensemble 0xCE15, Label: 'BBC National DAB', ShortLabel: 'BBC DAB', LTO: +60 min, ECC: 0xE1, NumServices: 12
Audio-Service 0xC221, Label: 'BBC Radio 1', ShortLabel: 'BBC R1', PTY: Pop Music (dynamic), AnnouncementSupport: No, NumComponents: 1 (Audio: 1, Data: 0)
AudioComponent, SCIdS: 0, Label: '', ShortLabel: '', ASCTy: 0x00 (MP2), SubChId: 1, StartCU: 0, NumCU: 96, ErrorProt: UEP #35 (PL: 3), Datarate: 128 kbit/s, NumUserApps: 0
Audio-Service 0xC222, Label: 'BBC Radio 2', ShortLabel: 'BBC R2', PTY: Pop Music (dynamic), AnnouncementSupport: No, NumComponents: 1 (Audio: 1, Data: 0)
AudioComponent, SCIdS: 0, Label: '', ShortLabel: '', ASCTy: 0x00 (MP2), SubChId: 2, StartCU: 96, NumCU: 96, ErrorProt: UEP #35 (PL: 3), Datarate: 128 kbit/s, NumUserApps: 0
Audio-Service 0xC223, Label: 'BBC Radio 3', ShortLabel: 'BBC R3', PTY: Culture (dynamic), AnnouncementSupport: No, NumComponents: 1 (Audio: 1, Data: 0)
AudioComponent, SCIdS: 0, Label: '', ShortLabel: '', ASCTy: 0x00 (MP2), SubChId: 3, StartCU: 192, NumCU: 140, ErrorProt: UEP #45 (PL: 3), Datarate: 192 kbit/s, NumUserApps: 0
Audio-Service 0xC224, Label: 'BBC Radio 4', ShortLabel: 'BBC R4', PTY: Varied (dynamic), AnnouncementSupport: No, NumComponents: 1 (Audio: 1, Data: 0)
AudioComponent, SCIdS: 0, Label: '', ShortLabel: '', ASCTy: 0x00 (MP2), SubChId: 4, StartCU: 332, NumCU: 58, ErrorProt: UEP #21 (PL: 3), Datarate: 80 kbit/s, NumUserApps: 0
Audio-Service 0xC225, Label: 'BBC Radio 5 Live', ShortLabel: 'BBC R5L', PTY: News (dynamic), AnnouncementSupport: No, NumComponents: 2 (Audio: 2, Data: 0)
AudioComponent, SCIdS: 0, Label: '', ShortLabel: '', ASCTy: 0x00 (MP2), SubChId: 5, StartCU: 390, NumCU: 48, ErrorProt: UEP #16 (PL: 3), Datarate: 64 kbit/s, NumUserApps: 0
AudioComponent, SCIdS: 1, Label: '', ShortLabel: '', ASCTy: 0x00 (MP2), SubChId: 8, StartCU: 486, NumCU: 48, ErrorProt: UEP #16 (PL: 3), Datarate: 64 kbit/s, NumUserApps: 0
Audio-Service 0xC228, Label: 'BBC R5LiveSportX', ShortLabel: 'BBC R5SX', PTY: Sport (dynamic), AnnouncementSupport: No, NumComponents: 1 (Audio: 1, Data: 0)
AudioComponent, SCIdS: 0, Label: '', ShortLabel: '', ASCTy: 0x00 (MP2), SubChId: 8, StartCU: 486, NumCU: 48, ErrorProt: UEP #16 (PL: 3), Datarate: 64 kbit/s, NumUserApps: 0
Audio-Service 0xC22A, Label: 'BBC Radio 1Xtra', ShortLabel: 'BBC R1X', PTY: No programme type (dynamic), AnnouncementSupport: No, NumComponents: 1 (Audio: 1, Data: 0)
AudioComponent, SCIdS: 0, Label: '', ShortLabel: '', ASCTy: 0x00 (MP2), SubChId: 10, StartCU: 582, NumCU: 96, ErrorProt: UEP #35 (PL: 3), Datarate: 128 kbit/s, NumUserApps: 0
Audio-Service 0xC22B, Label: 'BBC Radio 6Music', ShortLabel: 'BBC R6M', PTY: Rock Music (dynamic), AnnouncementSupport: No, NumComponents: 1 (Audio: 1, Data: 0)
AudioComponent, SCIdS: 0, Label: '', ShortLabel: '', ASCTy: 0x00 (MP2), SubChId: 11, StartCU: 678, NumCU: 96, ErrorProt: UEP #35 (PL: 3), Datarate: 128 kbit/s, NumUserApps: 0
Audio-Service 0xC22C, Label: 'BBC Radio 4Extra', ShortLabel: 'BBC R4Ex', PTY: Varied (dynamic), AnnouncementSupport: No, NumComponents: 1 (Audio: 1, Data: 0)
AudioComponent, SCIdS: 0, Label: '', ShortLabel: '', ASCTy: 0x00 (MP2), SubChId: 12, StartCU: 774, NumCU: 58, ErrorProt: UEP #21 (PL: 3), Datarate: 80 kbit/s, NumUserApps: 0
Audio-Service 0xC236, Label: 'BBC AsianNetwork', ShortLabel: 'BBCAsian', PTY: Varied (dynamic), AnnouncementSupport: No, NumComponents: 1 (Audio: 1, Data: 0)
AudioComponent, SCIdS: 0, Label: '', ShortLabel: '', ASCTy: 0x00 (MP2), SubChId: 7, StartCU: 438, NumCU: 48, ErrorProt: UEP #16 (PL: 3), Datarate: 64 kbit/s, NumUserApps: 0
Audio-Service 0xC238, Label: 'BBC WorldService', ShortLabel: 'BBC WS', PTY: Varied (dynamic), AnnouncementSupport: No, NumComponents: 1 (Audio: 1, Data: 0)
AudioComponent, SCIdS: 0, Label: '', ShortLabel: '', ASCTy: 0x00 (MP2), SubChId: 9, StartCU: 534, NumCU: 48, ErrorProt: UEP #16 (PL: 3), Datarate: 64 kbit/s, NumUserApps: 0
Data-Service 0xE1C79E5E, Label: 'BBC Guide', ShortLabel: 'BBCGuide', PTY: -, AnnouncementSupport: No, NumComponents: 1 (Audio: 0, Data: 1)
DataComponent (MSC packet data), SCIdS: 0, SCId: 1, Label: '', ShortLabel: '', DSCTy: 0x3C (MOT), SubChId: 62, StartCU: 832, NumCU: 24, ErrorProt: EEP 3-A (FEC: 1/2), Datarate: 32 kbit/s, PacketAddr: 1, NumUserApps: 1
User App 1 / 1, Label: '', ShortLabel: '', UaType: 0x7 (EPG), DataLen: 1 [01]

[andimik]

Bingo

[Chief Wiggum]

Bingo

Mensch ärger dich nicht?

andimik, sprich doch nicht immer in Rätseln sondern kläre uns und die Fragesteller auf, was du meinst.

[andimik]

Nachdem man in ganz Europa diesen Mux empfangen kann, werde ich schauen, ob es bei mir genauso ist.

War das wirklich so schwer zu verstehen? Beim Wort BBC fiel das Bingo, weil ich davor genau nach dem gefragt habe.

Is there a fixed time when the 2nd service usually is starting?

[DanDAB]

Is there a fixed time when the 2nd service usually is starting?

This 'second service' (BBC R5LiveSportX) is on all the time, as far as I'm aware; both 'BBC Radio 5 Live' and 'BBC R5LiveSportX' are on together/concurrently, all the time.

[Chief Wiggum]

Nachdem man in ganz Europa diesen Mux empfangen kann, werde ich schauen, ob es bei mir genauso ist.

War das wirklich so schwer zu verstehen? Beim Wort BBC fiel das Bingo, weil ich davor genau nach dem gefragt habe.

Ja. Ein einzelner, fast zusammenhangloser, sinnloser Beitrag, der nur das Wort "Bingo" enthält, ist nicht wirklich aussagekräftig.
Wäre nett gegenüber den anderen Usern, wenn du dich dann wenigstenst erklärt hättest.

[j.puig]

This 'second service' (BBC R5LiveSportX) is on all the time, as far as I'm aware; both 'BBC Radio 5 Live' and 'BBC R5LiveSportX' are on together/concurrently, all the time.

No.
BBC 5 live sp extra is not 24h/day.
Now (thursday, 21:29 CET) it's off.

[Radio-Maxe]

Also bisher muss ich jeden Tag 1x den Sender wechseln. Ein ständiges Hören scheint nicht möglich. Ein Speicher-Thema?

[pomnitz26]

Bei mir läuft der Player über Wochen im Dauerbetrieb und wird nur durch Windows Updates manuell neu gestartet. Kein Problem, auch nicht bei höher aufgelösten Slideshow Bildern.

[Chief Wiggum]

Irgendwelche Probleme die verursacht werden durch die Energieeinstellungen / Sparmodus von Windows ?

Irgendwann gab es doch hier schon mal so einen seltsamen Fall

[Radio-Maxe]

Irgendwelche Probleme die verursacht werden durch die Energieeinstellungen / Sparmodus von Windows ?

Die Player-Software läuft auf einem "Windows Server 2016/64" - der hat keine Energiespar-Funktionen.
Und die Player-Software scheint rein optisch auch weiter zu laufen. Die SNR-Anzeige z.B. "blinkt" brav weiter vor sich hin. Nur der Sound ist weg.
Slide-Show habe ich nicht aktiv.
1x Sender gewechselt und sofort höre ich wieder was.
Welche alternative Player-Soft kann ich noch antesten?
Zusatz: Ist mir eben aufgefallen: Wenn ich die Remote-Desktop-Verbindung, mit der ich das Programm gestartet habe, beende, dann ist sofort ruhe.
Läuft das nicht Login-Unabhängig? Oder kann ich es irgendwie als Windows-Dienst starten?

[Radio-Maxe]

Irgendwelche Probleme die verursacht werden durch die Energieeinstellungen / Sparmodus von Windows ?

Die Player-Software läuft auf einem "Windows Server 2016/64" - der hat keine Energiespar-Funktionen.
Und die Player-Software scheint rein optisch auch weiter zu laufen. Die SNR-Anzeige z.B. "blinkt" brav weiter vor sich hin. Nur der Sound ist weg.
Slide-Show habe ich nicht aktiv.
1x Sender gewechselt und sofort höre ich wieder was.
Welche alternative Player-Soft kann ich noch antesten?
Zusatz: Ist mir eben aufgefallen: Wenn ich die Remote-Desktop-Verbindung, mit der ich das Programm gestartet habe, beende, dann ist sofort ruhe.
Läuft das nicht Login-Unabhängig? Oder kann ich es irgendwie als Windows-Dienst starten?

Nachtrag: Die Playersoftware wurde nun als "Aufgabe" (ohne Kontoanmeldung) beim Systemstart eingetragen. Nun bleibt die Ausgabe der Musik erhalten, wenn das Userkonto abgemeldet wird.

[andimik]

I've recorded the re-configuration (done some seconds to 10 am CEST).

All my tools have a short interruption on all programmes, so I suppose this is according to the spec.

$ cat /tmp/bbc.ts | ts2na -p 1061 -s 12 | na2ni | dablin_gtk -1
INFO: Using pid: 0x0425 (1061)
WARN: Forward error correction (FEC) disabled (NOT COMPILED)
INFO: E1 Sync found at bit: 235, inverted: yes
DEBUG: seek: B:29, b:3
DEBUG: pre-readed output 15 frames (2 bytes left):
DEBUG: MULTIFRAME FILLING: 207
INFO: ETI Sync found at pos: 7
INFO: ETI Multiframe sync found at blockId: 18
.DABlin v1.13.0-2-geeae67e - capital DAB experience
Plays a DAB/DAB+ audio service from an ETI-NI or an EDI AF stream.
https://github.com/Opendigitalradio/dablin

SDLOutput: using SDL version '2.0.10'
EnsembleSource: reading ETI from 'stdin'
FICDecoder: SId 0xC22B: audio service (SubChId 11, DAB , primary)
FICDecoder: SubChId 5: start 428 CUs, size 58 CUs, PL UEP 3 = 80 kBit/s
FICDecoder: SubChId 11: start 678 CUs, size 96 CUs, PL UEP 3 = 128 kBit/s
FICDecoder: SubChId 62: start 832 CUs, size 24 CUs, PL EEP 3-A = 32 kBit/s
FICDecoder: SubChId 12: start 774 CUs, size 58 CUs, PL UEP 3 = 80 kBit/s
FICDecoder: SubChId 10: start 582 CUs, size 96 CUs, PL UEP 3 = 128 kBit/s
FICDecoder: SubChId 7: start 486 CUs, size 48 CUs, PL UEP 3 = 64 kBit/s
FICDecoder: SubChId 9: start 534 CUs, size 48 CUs, PL UEP 3 = 64 kBit/s
FICDecoder: SubChId 1: start 0 CUs, size 96 CUs, PL UEP 3 = 128 kBit/s
FICDecoder: SubChId 2: start 96 CUs, size 96 CUs, PL UEP 3 = 128 kBit/s
FICDecoder: SubChId 3: start 192 CUs, size 140 CUs, PL UEP 3 = 192 kBit/s
FICDecoder: SubChId 4: start 332 CUs, size 96 CUs, PL UEP 3 = 128 kBit/s
FICDecoder: SId 0xC221, SCIdS 0: MSC service component (SubChId 1)
FICDecoder: SId 0xC22C: audio service (SubChId 12, DAB , primary)
FICDecoder: SId 0xC22A: audio service (SubChId 10, DAB , primary)
FICDecoder: SId 0xC236: audio service (SubChId 7, DAB , primary)
FICDecoder: SId 0xC238: audio service (SubChId 9, DAB , primary)
FICDecoder: SId 0xC221: audio service (SubChId 1, DAB , primary)
FICDecoder: SId 0xC222: audio service (SubChId 2, DAB , primary)
FICDecoder: SId 0xC223: audio service (SubChId 3, DAB , primary)
FICDecoder: SId 0xC224: audio service (SubChId 4, DAB , primary)
FICDecoder: SId 0xC225: audio service (SubChId 5, DAB , primary)
FICDecoder: SId 0xC222, SCIdS 0: MSC service component (SubChId 2)
FICDecoder: SId 0xC223, SCIdS 0: MSC service component (SubChId 3)
FICDecoder: SId 0xC224, SCIdS 0: MSC service component (SubChId 4)
FICDecoder: SId 0xC222: programme service label 'BBC Radio 2' ('BBC R2')
FICDecoder: SId 0xC222: programme type (static): 'Pop Music'
FICDecoder: SId 0xC221: programme service label 'BBC Radio 1' ('BBC R1')
FICDecoder: SId 0xC221: programme type (static): 'Pop Music'
EnsemblePlayer: playing sub-channel 2 (DAB)
MP2Decoder: using decoder 'x86-64'.
FICDecoder: SId 0xC225, SCIdS 0: MSC service component (SubChId 5)
FICDecoder: SId 0xC223: programme type (static): 'Culture'
FICDecoder: SId 0xC224: programme type (static): 'Varied'
FICDecoder: SId 0xC225: programme type (static): 'News'
FICDecoder: UTC date/time: 2020-07-26, Sun - 07:59
FICDecoder: SId 0xC224: programme service label 'BBC Radio 4' ('BBC R4')
FICDecoder: SId 0xC223: programme service label 'BBC Radio 3' ('BBC R3')
FICDecoder: SId 0xC22B: programme type (static): 'Rock Music'
EnsemblePlayer: format: MPEG 1.0 Layer II, 48 kHz Joint Stereo @ 128 kBit/s
SDLOutput: using audio buffer of 192000 bytes
SDLOutput: audio opened; driver name: pulseaudio, freq: 48000, channels: 2, size: 18432, samples: 2304, silence: 0x00, output: 32bit float
FICDecoder: SId 0xC22A: programme type (static): 'No programme type'
FICDecoder: SId 0xC225: programme service label 'BBC Radio 5 Live' ('BBC R5L')
FICDecoder: SId 0xC22C: programme type (static): 'Varied'
FICDecoder: SId 0xC22C: programme service label 'BBC Radio 4Extra' ('BBC R4Ex')
FICDecoder: SId 0xC22B: programme service label 'BBC Radio 6Music' ('BBC R6M')
FICDecoder: SId 0xC236: programme type (static): 'Varied'
FICDecoder: SId 0xC22B, SCIdS 0: MSC service component (SubChId 11)
FICDecoder: SId 0xC22C, SCIdS 0: MSC service component (SubChId 12)
FICDecoder: SubChId 2: language 'English'
FICDecoder: SubChId 3: language 'English'
FICDecoder: SId 0xC236: programme service label 'BBC AsianNetwork' ('BBCAsian')
FICDecoder: SubChId 1: language 'English'
FICDecoder: SId 0xC22A: programme service label 'BBC Radio 1Xtra' ('BBC R1X')
FICDecoder: SId 0xC238: programme type (static): 'Varied'
FICDecoder: SubChId 9: language 'English'
FICDecoder: SubChId 10: language 'English'
FICDecoder: SId 0xC238: programme service label 'BBC WorldService' ('BBC WS')
FICDecoder: SubChId 4: language 'English'
FICDecoder: SubChId 5: language 'English'
FICDecoder: SubChId 7: language 'English'
FICDecoder: EId 0xCE15: ensemble label 'BBC National DAB' ('BBC DAB')
FICDecoder: SubChId 11: language 'English'
FICDecoder: SubChId 12: language 'English'
FICDecoder: SId 0xC22A, SCIdS 0: MSC service component (SubChId 10)
FICDecoder: SId 0xC236, SCIdS 0: MSC service component (SubChId 7)
FICDecoder: SId 0xC238, SCIdS 0: MSC service component (SubChId 9)
FICDecoder: ECC: 0xE1, LTO: +01:00, international table ID: 0x01 (RDS PTY)
...............WARN: TS Discontinuity
ERROR: Deinterleave: Bad block[1]:[0.6]: c4 b.6=0
WARN: SYNC lost! Resynchronizing (1)
INFO: E1 Sync found at bit: 475, inverted: yes
DEBUG: seek: B:59, b:3
DEBUG: pre-readed output 14 frames (4 bytes left):
DEBUG: MULTIFRAME FILLING: 206
INFO: ETI Sync found at pos: 5
INFO: ETI Multiframe sync found at blockId: 17
.ETIPlayer: ignored ETI frame due to wrong (MST) CRC
ETIPlayer: ignored ETI frame with FSYNC = 0x073AB6
.FICDecoder: SubChId 3: start 192 CUs, size 116 CUs, PL UEP 3 = 160 kBit/s
FICDecoder: SubChId 4: start 308 CUs, size 96 CUs, PL UEP 3 = 128 kBit/s
FICDecoder: SId 0xC225: audio service (SubChId 8, DAB , secondary)
FICDecoder: SubChId 5: start 404 CUs, size 48 CUs, PL UEP 3 = 64 kBit/s
FICDecoder: SubChId 8: start 500 CUs, size 48 CUs, PL UEP 3 = 64 kBit/s
FICDecoder: SubChId 11: start 692 CUs, size 96 CUs, PL UEP 3 = 128 kBit/s
FICDecoder: SubChId 12: start 788 CUs, size 58 CUs, PL UEP 3 = 80 kBit/s
FICDecoder: SubChId 10: start 596 CUs, size 96 CUs, PL UEP 3 = 128 kBit/s
FICDecoder: SubChId 7: start 452 CUs, size 48 CUs, PL UEP 3 = 64 kBit/s
FICDecoder: SubChId 9: start 548 CUs, size 48 CUs, PL UEP 3 = 64 kBit/s
FICDecoder: SubChId 62: start 846 CUs, size 12 CUs, PL EEP 3-A = 16 kBit/s
FICDecoder: SId 0xC228: audio service (SubChId 8, DAB , primary)
FICDecoder: SId 0xC225, SCIdS 3: service component label 'BBC R5LiveSportX' ('BBC R5SX')
FICDecoder: SId 0xC228: programme type (static): 'Sport'
.FICDecoder: SubChId 8: language 'English'
FICDecoder: SId 0xC228: programme service label 'BBC R5LiveSportX' ('BBC R5SX')
FICDecoder: SId 0xC225, SCIdS 3: MSC service component (SubChId 8)
FICDecoder: SId 0xC228, SCIdS 0: MSC service component (SubChId 8)
.....SDLOutput: audio closed

$ cat /tmp/bbc.ts | ts2na -p 1061 -s 12 | na2ni > /tmp/bbc.etiINFO: Using pid: 0x0425 (1061)
WARN: Forward error correction (FEC) disabled (NOT COMPILED)
INFO: E1 Sync found at bit: 235, inverted: yes
DEBUG: seek: B:29, b:3
DEBUG: pre-readed output 15 frames (2 bytes left):
DEBUG: MULTIFRAME FILLING: 207
INFO: ETI Sync found at pos: 7
INFO: ETI Multiframe sync found at blockId: 18
................WARN: TS Discontinuity
ERROR: Deinterleave: Bad block[1]:[0.6]: c4 b.6=0
WARN: SYNC lost! Resynchronizing (1)
INFO: E1 Sync found at bit: 475, inverted: yes
DEBUG: seek: B:59, b:3
DEBUG: pre-readed output 14 frames (4 bytes left):
DEBUG: MULTIFRAME FILLING: 206
INFO: ETI Sync found at pos: 5
INFO: ETI Multiframe sync found at blockId: 17
..........WARN: Can't read input ts
INFO: Successfully read 91449 ts-packets

ERROR: Can't read from file
INFO: Processed 988 ETI-frames

But of course this is the Satellite feed. Maybe you could record this in UK with Andi's Player (raw file), please start the recording at xh:59min:45sec and close it at xh:0min:15sec (depending when the next re-configuration will be done).

see

[andimik]

If someone wants to try as well: These are the files.

https://we.tl/t-e1pgcn3Sd7
This download contains an ETI fle, the original TS file from Astra 4.8 East and two audio mp2 files. You will hear the dropout on Radio 2 after the 91 MHz announcement.

So we just need a raw file from UK (in 8bit un-signed integer, so please no Airspy or HackRF recording). This I can change into 8bit signed integer and use with HackRF and Andi's DAB player.

[andimik]

@ admin

Ich hoffe die Hilfestellung hat die Verwirrung um das Bingo wieder wettgemacht.